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Post by thezman on Jan 30, 2007 19:41:57 GMT -5
I agree with I beleive everything all have said, so I'll add this, people also make up a great course.Just like the variety in the course, the variety in the people. Older, younger, laughers, serious ones etc... The people I have played with in Tocooa are super. I play recreational so getting better and better is probley not going to happen for me[been playing for about a year now] I enjoy the game at my level , but I also admire people that play great, and want to get even better. Yeah people, thats whats important in a course too! TheZman.
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Post by Teerex on Jan 30, 2007 20:33:55 GMT -5
Totally true! People factor is huge for me too! I got started in Disc golf when a disc golf course got put in at my church and I asked about it and Mr. Tim Rainwater aka. "CTP Magnet" introduced me to the sport. A month later I went to watch the last round of the USDGC and I was hooked forever. People, People, People; can't live with'em, can't live without'em. People are what help to make local courses great! Hats off to you "Roselaners"!
With all this continued input I believe the course rating system will be coming into shape by next week. I am planning to put all of these ideas together into a group of single words that will then be rated 1 - 5 (see earlier reply) and will give me a basis to rate the courses that I have played with greater clarity (I am going to try to narrow the potential words down to five).
Thank you to everyone! ...and if you are reading this and have not given your ideas please join in!
Teerex
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Post by Teerex on Feb 1, 2007 12:00:00 GMT -5
Great to see a little snow this morning! What a beatiful site! Kinda like when you walk up to a new course you have never played before. Maybe the most important hole on a disc golf course is the first hole and then maybe the last? They say you remember most your first and last impressions.
What do you think?
Teerex
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Post by stanhoper on Feb 1, 2007 14:46:12 GMT -5
Well, I don't have any original ideas, but I'll expand on a few. When describing the balance of a course I would also include a balance of open / wooded and short / long. Most courses are classified as one or the other, but it's fun when you can play a little of everything all in one course. Also, for me the PIA factor includes whether or not the course is changeable. Will I be playing the same course every time, or are there different pin placements and multiple tees? I played the Maple Hill course up in Mass when I was home for Christmas. It had two tees and two baskets for every hole. Excellent PIA factor. Lastly, and this is a new one to add to the list, Danger Factor. Nothing makes a course like trap doors and fire-breathing dragons. This is a picture from the course in my hometown back in RI. Guess we just take our golf a little more seriously.
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Post by thezman on Feb 1, 2007 21:28:43 GMT -5
I agree Teerex, the first and last holes are real important. When I played ball golf( I am now reformed, therapy, medication have helped a lot) the first and last holes are sort of like a showcase of what the course will be like. There is something about standing on the first tee box ,breathing in a fresh breath and anticipating how your round will go, and arriving at the 18th( or in our case the 22ndhole) and either having a felling of satifaction of conquering the course or waiting until the next time.
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Post by Teerex on Feb 2, 2007 15:27:30 GMT -5
A changeable course and the "DANGER" factor. Nice Touch, stanhoper! I wonder what king of sponsership you need to install a couple of trap doors and raise a few dragons? (Cool photo)
Teerex
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Post by Teerex on Feb 2, 2007 15:45:16 GMT -5
Here is the updated word list:
Maintenance- (Facilities, Course: Tee's, Fairways, Underbrush, Basket areas) Fun Factor- (clear information, clear tee markers, locals, First and Last Holes, "Danger"factor) Apperance- (Lanscape, terrain, type of : tee pads, baskets; Maybe all of maintenace could fit under here?) Design- (Balance: Risk vs. reward, Whole design: pin sighting, pin placement, fairways and changability, Balance: , Balance: hyzer vs. anhyzer (Shot selection and Line of sight), Balance Short vs. Long, Balance: wooded vs. open, ) PIA FACTOR- (from tdg, "Play It Again" ,Overall First impression, distance, tournaments, could fit well with YUP, MAYBE and NOPE?)
(List will be refined and combined as more input is gathered)
We are moving closer and clsoer to a great look at what makes a great course. Hopefully after this weekend, I can can post a final five and their descriptions for a vote from everyone and thoughts.
If you are reading this and have not yet replied, please take the time to share your input, we would like to hear from you!
Teerex
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Post by Teerex on Feb 3, 2007 17:34:26 GMT -5
Are there aspects of the game or course that we have not breached yet?
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Post by Teerex on Feb 6, 2007 16:55:09 GMT -5
Hello fellow disc golfers! Today, I was able to spend a few minutes printing out the thread, highlighting important points and sorting through the information. I am close to a final word list that will be ready for critique and vote. Stay tuned!
Any additional information is welcome!
Teerex
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Post by Teerex on Feb 9, 2007 14:01:33 GMT -5
The list of words are posted. Check out the new thread called ..... "Final 5 First Look" and share your ideas and input!
Thanks!
Teerex
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Post by randgolf on Feb 9, 2007 19:17:18 GMT -5
What about:
Does the course have a signature hole "unload bag" ? Or does no hole really stand out.
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Post by Teerex on Feb 11, 2007 8:31:41 GMT -5
I agree completely. I ran down on Friday to play the new course at Victor Lord course and #8 is a fantastic hole! It plays over 500ft and gives you 2 options off the tee for a lefty or righty. The throwing lines can be high or low because you are throwing through a series of tallllll pine trees. A HUGE arm can look at a birdy, however it is a fantastic lond par 3 that requires a good drive and solid approach. The course needs some tweeking however to be a great course. The course is not complete and only offers 12 holes at this time. If you are near the area, it would be worth the stop to get a good practice round in.
Any other ideas?
Teerex
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Post by Teerex on Feb 12, 2007 14:49:36 GMT -5
If you liked this thread, please check out the "First Look Final 5" that lays out the first look at everyone's ideas together.
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Post by Teerex on Feb 13, 2007 16:38:43 GMT -5
I am really excited about this course rating system that is coming together. It just might be a way for the average disc golfer (like myself) to get a good idea how of what course to play when I vist an area if there was a kind of standard for the ratings.
I would like to open up discussion on what makes up QUALITY (Type of:)on the rating system.
1- IF a course has top of the line baskets but horible tee signs and OK tee pads how does that effect the overall QUALITY rating which inlcudes maintenance?
2- Are concrete the standard for quality? or are dirt tee pads more common? I don't think I have played enough courses to make a call?
What do you think?
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Post by randgolf on Feb 13, 2007 18:42:37 GMT -5
www.pdga.com/course/eval/course_eval_details.php?id=495PDGA Course Evaluation Program above. I think yours is a more user friendly version that all players would have a part in contributing to. Take a look at the depth of design that the PDGA took. I evaluated Roselane and I can tell you it was no small survey. Keep up the good work.
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